With the Worst View
Mahādiṭṭhi (SN 24.8)
1. I heard thus. At one time the Blessed One was living in the monastery offered by Anāthapiṇḍika in Jeta's grove in Sāvatthi.
2. The Blessed One addressed the monks from there: “Monks, conscious of what, grasping and settling in what, arise the view, `These seven are the bodies which are brought about by natural means, not created by some creator, sterile, and not the result of cause; they stand like pillars, unmoved, not suitable enough to disturb the pleasantness and unpleasantness of each other'?
3. “ `What seven? They are the bodies of earth, water, fire, air, pleasantness, unpleasantness, and life. These seven are the bodies which are brought about by natural means, not created by some creator, sterile and not the result of causes, they stand like pillars, unmoved, not suitable enough to disturb the pleasantness or unpleasantness or pleasant and unpleasant nature of each other.
4. “ `If someone were to cut the head with a sharp weapon, by that no life was destroyed. The weapon entered through a slit putting apart the seven bodies.
5. “ `There are fourteen hundred thousand and sixty-six hundred important births to go through in existences with five hundred actions, five actions, three actions, one action, and half an action following eight methods twice, for sixteen forward world cycles, born in the six mental faculties, going through the eight stages of the life of a prophet. Born four thousand, nine hundred times in each of the following, living a peculiar life, living the lives of mendicants and as venomous snakes. A hundred times with mental faculties, three thousand times gone astray, thirty-six times in space, in seven perceptive wombs, in seven non-perceptive wombs, in seven wombs without ties, seven times in heaven, seven times as humans, seven times as demons, seven times with perception, seven times as a block, experiencing seven hundred downfalls and seven hundred and seven visions throughout eighty small and large world cycles, born as hundred thousands of fools and wise they make an end of unpleasantness.
6. “ `Here it is not possible to get maturity for immature actions or feel and finish off the mature actions by virtues, observances, austerities, or leading a holy life. For the limited measured pleasant and unpleasant feelings in existences there is no decrease or increase, no excellence or inferiority.
7. “ `Like one thrown into a ball of thread, would have to find his way out, in the same manner the fools and the wise have to go through pleasantness and unpleasantness and find their way out'?
8. “Venerable sir, the Blessed One is the leader for the Teaching, hearing it from the Blessed One the monks will bear it in mind.”
“Then monks, listen carefully, I will tell you.
9. “Monks, conscious of matter, grasping and settling in matter, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
10-16. Monks, conscious of feelings, grasping and settling in feelings, arises the view, ``These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
17-22. Monks, conscious of perceptions, grasping and settling in perceptions, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
23-28. Monks, conscious of intentions, grasping and settling in intentions, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
29-34. Monks, with consciousness, grasping and settling in consciousness, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
35-40. Monks, are matter feelings, perceptions intentions and consciousness permanent or impermanent?”
“Venerable sir, they are impermanent.”
“Those which are impermanent, are they unpleasant or pleasant?”
“Venerable sir, they are unpleasant.”
“Adhering that they are impermanent, unpleasant, changing, would the view arise, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'?”
41-46. Monks, are whatever seen, heard, sensed, cognized, achieved and pursued by the mind permanent or impermanent?”
“Venerable sir, they are impermanent.”
“Those which are impermanent, are they unpleasant or pleasant?”
“Venerable sir, they are unpleasant.”
“Adhering they are impermanent, unpleasant, changing would the view arise, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'?”.
“That is not so, venerable sir.”
47. “Monks, when the learned noble disciple has dispelled doubts in these six instances, his doubts about unpleasantness, its arising, ceasing, and the method for the ceasing of unpleasantness too are dispelled. Monks, to this is said the noble disciple has entered the stream of the Teaching. He would not fall from there and his single aim would be enlightenment.”
2. The Blessed One addressed the monks from there: “Monks, conscious of what, grasping and settling in what, arise the view, `These seven are the bodies which are brought about by natural means, not created by some creator, sterile, and not the result of cause; they stand like pillars, unmoved, not suitable enough to disturb the pleasantness and unpleasantness of each other'?
3. “ `What seven? They are the bodies of earth, water, fire, air, pleasantness, unpleasantness, and life. These seven are the bodies which are brought about by natural means, not created by some creator, sterile and not the result of causes, they stand like pillars, unmoved, not suitable enough to disturb the pleasantness or unpleasantness or pleasant and unpleasant nature of each other.
4. “ `If someone were to cut the head with a sharp weapon, by that no life was destroyed. The weapon entered through a slit putting apart the seven bodies.
5. “ `There are fourteen hundred thousand and sixty-six hundred important births to go through in existences with five hundred actions, five actions, three actions, one action, and half an action following eight methods twice, for sixteen forward world cycles, born in the six mental faculties, going through the eight stages of the life of a prophet. Born four thousand, nine hundred times in each of the following, living a peculiar life, living the lives of mendicants and as venomous snakes. A hundred times with mental faculties, three thousand times gone astray, thirty-six times in space, in seven perceptive wombs, in seven non-perceptive wombs, in seven wombs without ties, seven times in heaven, seven times as humans, seven times as demons, seven times with perception, seven times as a block, experiencing seven hundred downfalls and seven hundred and seven visions throughout eighty small and large world cycles, born as hundred thousands of fools and wise they make an end of unpleasantness.
6. “ `Here it is not possible to get maturity for immature actions or feel and finish off the mature actions by virtues, observances, austerities, or leading a holy life. For the limited measured pleasant and unpleasant feelings in existences there is no decrease or increase, no excellence or inferiority.
7. “ `Like one thrown into a ball of thread, would have to find his way out, in the same manner the fools and the wise have to go through pleasantness and unpleasantness and find their way out'?
8. “Venerable sir, the Blessed One is the leader for the Teaching, hearing it from the Blessed One the monks will bear it in mind.”
“Then monks, listen carefully, I will tell you.
9. “Monks, conscious of matter, grasping and settling in matter, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
10-16. Monks, conscious of feelings, grasping and settling in feelings, arises the view, ``These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
17-22. Monks, conscious of perceptions, grasping and settling in perceptions, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
23-28. Monks, conscious of intentions, grasping and settling in intentions, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
29-34. Monks, with consciousness, grasping and settling in consciousness, arises the view, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'.
35-40. Monks, are matter feelings, perceptions intentions and consciousness permanent or impermanent?”
“Venerable sir, they are impermanent.”
“Those which are impermanent, are they unpleasant or pleasant?”
“Venerable sir, they are unpleasant.”
“Adhering that they are impermanent, unpleasant, changing, would the view arise, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'?”
41-46. Monks, are whatever seen, heard, sensed, cognized, achieved and pursued by the mind permanent or impermanent?”
“Venerable sir, they are impermanent.”
“Those which are impermanent, are they unpleasant or pleasant?”
“Venerable sir, they are unpleasant.”
“Adhering they are impermanent, unpleasant, changing would the view arise, `These seven are the bodies ... re ... find their way out'?”.
“That is not so, venerable sir.”
47. “Monks, when the learned noble disciple has dispelled doubts in these six instances, his doubts about unpleasantness, its arising, ceasing, and the method for the ceasing of unpleasantness too are dispelled. Monks, to this is said the noble disciple has entered the stream of the Teaching. He would not fall from there and his single aim would be enlightenment.”
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